Comments on: Where’s the Black Hat? http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/07/09/wheres-the-black-hat/ where nature and culture meet Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:19:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Michael Tobis http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/07/09/wheres-the-black-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-569 Michael Tobis Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:11:15 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=1235#comment-569 I didn't see the damned hat at first, either. I didn’t see the damned hat at first, either.

]]> By: Steve Bloom http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/07/09/wheres-the-black-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-566 Steve Bloom Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:40:03 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=1235#comment-566 Not enough time. I was going to make a comment on Stern's post but comments there seem to not be working, so I'll leave it here: Take note first that there's a history to all of this going back a number of years, and that those who at first glance may seem to be persecuting RP Jr. unfairly tend to be doing so only after great provocation.  There are a multitude of incidents involving him telling physical scientists that results in their own field mean something quite different from what they and their colleagues might think.  Such incidents are generally in service of RP Jr. providing aid and support for denialists and others with marginal climate science views, even while being careful to remain technically within the IPCC fold.  See <a href="http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2008/05/consistently-wrong-chronicles.html#links" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2006/01/probability-prediction-and_14.html#links" rel="nofollow">here</a> for a recent example.   Around the same time, RP Jr. <a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/all-in-4873" rel="nofollow">called</a> Jim Hansen "boneheaded" for predicting that there would another record warm year quite soon.  That took some real gall. In short, RP Jr. is all about controversy.      Re Joe Romm, it may not be apparent that he's campaigning to place RP Jr. beyond the pale in terms of influence on policy in DC and by now has succeeded to a considerable extent.  RP Jr. feels the pain, believe me. Not enough time.

I was going to make a comment on Stern’s post but comments there seem to not be working, so I’ll leave it here:

Take note first that there’s a history to all of this going back a number of years, and that those who at first glance may seem to be persecuting RP Jr. unfairly tend to be doing so only after great provocation. 
There are a multitude of incidents involving him telling physical scientists that results in their own field mean something quite different from what they and their colleagues might think.  Such incidents are generally in service of RP Jr. providing aid and support for denialists and others with marginal climate science views, even while being careful to remain technically within the IPCC fold.  See here and here for a recent example.  
Around the same time, RP Jr. called Jim Hansen “boneheaded” for predicting that there would another record warm year quite soon.  That took some real gall.
In short, RP Jr. is all about controversy.     
Re Joe Romm, it may not be apparent that he’s campaigning to place RP Jr. beyond the pale in terms of influence on policy in DC and by now has succeeded to a considerable extent.  RP Jr. feels the pain, believe me.

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