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	<title>Comments on: Stewart Embraces Superfreaks</title>
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		<title>By: James Annan</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>James Annan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,
 I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,<br />
 I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now…</p>
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		<title>By: James Annan</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>James Annan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,
I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,<br />
I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now…</p>
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		<title>By: James Annan</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>James Annan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,

I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,</p>
<p>I have been wondering when you are going to get around to sharing your thoughts on Superfreakonomics, which you should surely have read by now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Lambert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;ve had time to write and update four posts on the controversy, but somehow insufficient time to read the chapter?  Is this somehow Joe Romm&#039;s fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;ve had time to write and update four posts on the controversy, but somehow insufficient time to read the chapter?  Is this somehow Joe Romm&#8217;s fault?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Kloor</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Kloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I&#039;ll finally carve out some time to read the book in the next week, so I can judge this Superfreak fuss for myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;ll finally carve out some time to read the book in the next week, so I can judge this Superfreak fuss for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Kloor</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Kloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Fair enough, and to your last point (final graph), which is a good one, I&#039;d like to mull that over and take it up again real soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Fair enough, and to your last point (final graph), which is a good one, I&#8217;d like to mull that over and take it up again real soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tobis</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tobis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not here to defend anyone in particular (except possibly myself).

Why should any one expect everyone who opposes Dubner &amp; Leavitt to behave responsibly? Are there other controversial topics where all participants on one side are impeccably polite? On any topic of consequence there will be voices that any particular person doesn&#039;t like. So my response is that Pielke&#039;s question is just silly. I&#039;m not responsible for every D &amp; L critic, nor is anyone else who criticizes them.

In this case, though, you raise Joe Romm in particular. On the whole I&#039;d agree that Romm&#039;s tone tends to backfire, but if he saved his ammunition for comparably egregious cases as this one, I would not have a problem with it. These people deserve the Romm treatment, not for the position they have taken, but for the shabby way in which they have chosen to take it.

More generally, the fact that people in the media and the policy sector read more Romm and less Connolley is something that I find quite unfortunate. I can&#039;t be held responsible for their tastes in reading material, nor for the fact that a choice for polarizing material tends to be polarizing. I&#039;d like to know why people seek out the dogmatic and then complain about it when there are plenty of alternatives available.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to defend anyone in particular (except possibly myself).</p>
<p>Why should any one expect everyone who opposes Dubner &amp; Leavitt to behave responsibly? Are there other controversial topics where all participants on one side are impeccably polite? On any topic of consequence there will be voices that any particular person doesn&#8217;t like. So my response is that Pielke&#8217;s question is just silly. I&#8217;m not responsible for every D &amp; L critic, nor is anyone else who criticizes them.</p>
<p>In this case, though, you raise Joe Romm in particular. On the whole I&#8217;d agree that Romm&#8217;s tone tends to backfire, but if he saved his ammunition for comparably egregious cases as this one, I would not have a problem with it. These people deserve the Romm treatment, not for the position they have taken, but for the shabby way in which they have chosen to take it.</p>
<p>More generally, the fact that people in the media and the policy sector read more Romm and less Connolley is something that I find quite unfortunate. I can&#8217;t be held responsible for their tastes in reading material, nor for the fact that a choice for polarizing material tends to be polarizing. I&#8217;d like to know why people seek out the dogmatic and then complain about it when there are plenty of alternatives available.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Kloor</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Kloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael--
Have you read the book or the climate change related chapters yet? I haven&#039;t, so I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;re right or not. However, as I&#039;ve mentioned before, I&#039;m willing to defer to William Connelly&#039;s take.

I suspect that Jon Stewart&#039;s puzzled response to the book&#039;s reception has more to do with with the Romm factor and not Connelly&#039;s. It&#039;s also obvious in the interview that Stewart read the book and he does not believe that Dubner &amp; Levitt are denialists.

So given your reaction, it&#039;s pertinent to ask your response to &lt;a href=&quot;http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2009/10/have-you-stepped-on-secular-religion.html?showComment=1256753810808#c7934588858199318097&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this question&lt;/a&gt; that Roger Pielke Jr. asks over at his blog:
&quot;What is more harmful to the cause of action, the views of the Freaks or the response to them?  Easy question.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8211;<br />
Have you read the book or the climate change related chapters yet? I haven&#8217;t, so I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;re right or not. However, as I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I&#8217;m willing to defer to William Connelly&#8217;s take.</p>
<p>I suspect that Jon Stewart&#8217;s puzzled response to the book&#8217;s reception has more to do with with the Romm factor and not Connelly&#8217;s. It&#8217;s also obvious in the interview that Stewart read the book and he does not believe that Dubner &amp; Levitt are denialists.</p>
<p>So given your reaction, it&#8217;s pertinent to ask your response to <a href="http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2009/10/have-you-stepped-on-secular-religion.html?showComment=1256753810808#c7934588858199318097" rel="nofollow">this question</a> that Roger Pielke Jr. asks over at his blog:<br />
&#8220;What is more harmful to the cause of action, the views of the Freaks or the response to them?  Easy question.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tobis</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/10/28/stewart-embraces-superfreaks/comment-page-1/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tobis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, it&#039;s one thing to advocate for geoengineering. It&#039;s another to repeat practically every half-baked half-truth in the denialist playbook while you&#039;re doing it. The damage in this case was done mostly by the latter. Many people, having read the chapter in question, will end up with a weaker and more confused grasp of the climate problem than they started with. That&#039;s the main origin of the complaints, as should be clear enough to anyone following this story.

The conclusion in favor of this type of geoengineering is debatable, (I am not alone in thinking it is unworkable) but that&#039;s not the issue here.

The issue the evidence brought to bear is grossly incorrect. Some things just aren&#039;t true, and responsible writers just don&#039;t go around repeating demonstrable untruths in support of their positions. There&#039;s nothing dogmatic about saying something is wrong when it&#039;s wrong as a matter of fact.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, it&#8217;s one thing to advocate for geoengineering. It&#8217;s another to repeat practically every half-baked half-truth in the denialist playbook while you&#8217;re doing it. The damage in this case was done mostly by the latter. Many people, having read the chapter in question, will end up with a weaker and more confused grasp of the climate problem than they started with. That&#8217;s the main origin of the complaints, as should be clear enough to anyone following this story.</p>
<p>The conclusion in favor of this type of geoengineering is debatable, (I am not alone in thinking it is unworkable) but that&#8217;s not the issue here.</p>
<p>The issue the evidence brought to bear is grossly incorrect. Some things just aren&#8217;t true, and responsible writers just don&#8217;t go around repeating demonstrable untruths in support of their positions. There&#8217;s nothing dogmatic about saying something is wrong when it&#8217;s wrong as a matter of fact.</p>
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