Comments on: Looming Enviro Wars http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/12/22/looming-enviro-wars/ where nature and culture meet Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:29:47 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Collide-a-scape » Blog Archive » Collide-a-scape >> The Clash over Wind http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/12/22/looming-enviro-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-1517 Collide-a-scape » Blog Archive » Collide-a-scape >> The Clash over Wind Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:21:28 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=2195#comment-1517 [...] some climate activists chided me for making hay out out of the Mojave desert/renewable energy controversy. Looks like Romm is [...] [...] some climate activists chided me for making hay out out of the Mojave desert/renewable energy controversy. Looks like Romm is [...]

]]> By: Steve Bloom http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/12/22/looming-enviro-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 Steve Bloom Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:08:45 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=2195#comment-1301 Given his personal financial stake in one of the displaced proposed projects and his extremely strange history with the autism-vaccine business, I'm not quite sure what your point is, Keith. Here's CBD's <a href="http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/deserts/mojave_desert/preserves_and_solar_power.html" rel="nofollow">perspective</a>.  As I suspected, they see Feinstein's proposal as a win-win for Mojave ecology and solar power development.    Given his personal financial stake in one of the displaced proposed projects and his extremely strange history with the autism-vaccine business, I’m not quite sure what your point is, Keith.

Here’s CBD’s perspective.  As I suspected, they see Feinstein’s proposal as a win-win for Mojave ecology and solar power development.   

]]> By: Keith Kloor http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/12/22/looming-enviro-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-1299 Keith Kloor Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:15:03 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=2195#comment-1299 Yeah, I guess RFK Jr. got suckered too. Yeah, I guess RFK Jr. got suckered too.

]]> By: Steve Bloom http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2009/12/22/looming-enviro-wars/comment-page-1/#comment-1298 Steve Bloom Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:06:33 +0000 http://www.collide-a-scape.com/?p=2195#comment-1298 All that work on the story and the journalist couldn't get it together to review a map to see whether adequate land has been set aside for projects.  Oddly, Feinstein announced last spring that her intent was to do exactly that, and every indication is that she's achieved her goal.  The alternative would be to fight things out on a project-by-project basis, and who thinks that would be better?  As the PG&E guy said (*many* grafs into the story), "Over time those projects will be built somewhere else and we’ll have benefits of the power to do so."  Obviously the people with a stake in the projects that will have to find other locations are pissed, but that's life.  Note also that the groups most concerned with desert protection weren't mentioned in the story (thinking in particular of CBD and the Sierra Club's Desert Committee).  How'd that happen? I wouldn't call this a new low point for you, Keith, but it does point up what a sucker you are for any story that feeds into your environmental conflict meme.   All that work on the story and the journalist couldn’t get it together to review a map to see whether adequate land has been set aside for projects.  Oddly, Feinstein announced last spring that her intent was to do exactly that, and every indication is that she’s achieved her goal.  The alternative would be to fight things out on a project-by-project basis, and who thinks that would be better?  As the PG&E guy said (*many* grafs into the story), “Over time those projects will be built somewhere else and we’ll have benefits of the power to do so.”  Obviously the people with a stake in the projects that will have to find other locations are pissed, but that’s life.  Note also that the groups most concerned with desert protection weren’t mentioned in the story (thinking in particular of CBD and the Sierra Club’s Desert Committee).  How’d that happen?

I wouldn’t call this a new low point for you, Keith, but it does point up what a sucker you are for any story that feeds into your environmental conflict meme.  

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