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		<title>By: Keith Kloor</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/02/05/disparate-anti-science-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Kloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oso (4),

You sound reflexively, almost pathologically suspicious of science.  There is no credible evidence whatsoever for a link between autism and vaccines. To you, the absence of evidence is something to hold on to in this case.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oso (4),</p>
<p>You sound reflexively, almost pathologically suspicious of science.  There is no credible evidence whatsoever for a link between autism and vaccines. To you, the absence of evidence is something to hold on to in this case.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: oso loco</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/02/05/disparate-anti-science-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>oso loco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on topic - I don&#039;t know about the autism/vaccine connection (if any), but I start hearing alarms in my head whenever anyone says &quot;the scientists say (whatever) so it much be true&quot;.  

Fact is that even the pharm companies understand that there&#039;s SOME fraction of the population that will react badly to ANY drug (including vaccines).  Denial of that obvious fact does nothing to enhance ones credibility.  Nor does absolute certainty about issues that are obviously uncertain (witness &quot;climate change&quot;.   Or, as was once said: 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;          Richard Feynman



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on topic &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about the autism/vaccine connection (if any), but I start hearing alarms in my head whenever anyone says &#8220;the scientists say (whatever) so it much be true&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Fact is that even the pharm companies understand that there&#8217;s SOME fraction of the population that will react badly to ANY drug (including vaccines).  Denial of that obvious fact does nothing to enhance ones credibility.  Nor does absolute certainty about issues that are obviously uncertain (witness &#8220;climate change&#8221;.   Or, as was once said: </p>
<p><em><strong>Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts</strong></em>          Richard Feynman</p>
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		<title>By: oso loco</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/02/05/disparate-anti-science-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>oso loco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate McCarthyism???

Really??? 

More like simple justice. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate McCarthyism???</p>
<p>Really??? </p>
<p>More like simple justice. </p>
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		<title>By: Eli Rabett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Rabett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eli thought you might enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&amp;ContentRecord_id=95a85493-802a-23ad-4090-ba6c1b31b031&amp;Region_id=&amp;Issue_id=&quot;&gt;this example of Climate McCarthyism&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;February 03, 2010
Allison C. LernerInspector General
National Science Foundation
Office of Inspector General
4201 Wilson Boulevard
Arlington, VA 22230

Dear Ms. Lerner:

This is a follow-up to my letter of December 2, 2009 and concerns today’s announcement by Penn State University that it has concluded its initial inquiry into possible research misconduct by one of the University’s researchers, Dr. Michael Mann. Penn State’s internal inquiry found further investigation is warranted to determine if Dr. Mann &quot;engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities.&quot;

While I firmly agree that Penn State’s investigation is warranted and must commence without delay, there are federal laws and policies implicated in this matter, including your “Research Misconduct” regulations, Title 45 CFR Part 689, that go beyond the scope of Penn State’s inquiry. Therefore, in order to have a full and complete accounting of this matter, I request that you now begin a formal investigation of the allegations against Dr. Mann.

Among other laws and regulations, I ask that you investigate compliance with, or violations of, OMB administrative procedures, 2 CFR Part 215 (OMB Circular A-110), in particular 2 CFR §215.36; Freedom of Information Act 5 U.S.C. §552 (NSF Regulation, 45 CFR Part 612); NSF guidelines implementing OMB information quality guidelines (515 Guidelines); Federal False Claims Act, 18 U.S.C. §287, and 31 U.S.C. §§3729-33; and Federal False Statements Act, 18 U.S.C §1001. Finally, given that Dr. Mann was at the University of Virginia from 1999 until 2005, I also request that you inquire whether his activities at the University of Virginia are implicated in this matter and within your jurisdiction.

Sincerely,

James M. Inhofe
Ranking Member
Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works&quot;

Note the difference between your illusion  and the real thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli thought you might enjoy &lt;a href=&#8221;http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&amp;ContentRecord_id=95a85493-802a-23ad-4090-ba6c1b31b031&amp;Region_id=&amp;Issue_id=&#8221;&gt;this example of Climate McCarthyism&lt;/a&gt;</p>
<p>&#8220;February 03, 2010<br />
Allison C. LernerInspector General<br />
National Science Foundation<br />
Office of Inspector General<br />
4201 Wilson Boulevard<br />
Arlington, VA 22230</p>
<p>Dear Ms. Lerner:</p>
<p>This is a follow-up to my letter of December 2, 2009 and concerns today’s announcement by Penn State University that it has concluded its initial inquiry into possible research misconduct by one of the University’s researchers, Dr. Michael Mann. Penn State’s internal inquiry found further investigation is warranted to determine if Dr. Mann &#8220;engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I firmly agree that Penn State’s investigation is warranted and must commence without delay, there are federal laws and policies implicated in this matter, including your “Research Misconduct” regulations, Title 45 CFR Part 689, that go beyond the scope of Penn State’s inquiry. Therefore, in order to have a full and complete accounting of this matter, I request that you now begin a formal investigation of the allegations against Dr. Mann.</p>
<p>Among other laws and regulations, I ask that you investigate compliance with, or violations of, OMB administrative procedures, 2 CFR Part 215 (OMB Circular A-110), in particular 2 CFR §215.36; Freedom of Information Act 5 U.S.C. §552 (NSF Regulation, 45 CFR Part 612); NSF guidelines implementing OMB information quality guidelines (515 Guidelines); Federal False Claims Act, 18 U.S.C. §287, and 31 U.S.C. §§3729-33; and Federal False Statements Act, 18 U.S.C §1001. Finally, given that Dr. Mann was at the University of Virginia from 1999 until 2005, I also request that you inquire whether his activities at the University of Virginia are implicated in this matter and within your jurisdiction.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>James M. Inhofe<br />
Ranking Member<br />
Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works&#8221;</p>
<p>Note the difference between your illusion  and the real thing</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Ditz</title>
		<link>http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/02/05/disparate-anti-science-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1709</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Ditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes write a post that collates blog responses,  both positive and negative, to a given issue.

I&#039;m keeping one now on responses to the Lancet retraction of the Wakefield&#039;s paper.

I&#039;ve added your post to the list.

The post is at

&lt;a href=&quot;http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/02/on-the-lancets-retraction-of-wakefields-1998-paper-alleging-a-connection-between-the-mmr-vaccine-and.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/02/on-the-lancets-retraction-of-wakefields-1998-paper-alleging-a-connection-between-the-mmr-vaccine-and.html&lt;/a&gt;.  There, your readers will find the views of those who disagree with the Lancet retraction and those who agree that the Lancet retraction was long-overdue.

Science isn&#039;t decided by a popularity poll, but the pro-science faction is running at about a 9:1 ratio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes write a post that collates blog responses,  both positive and negative, to a given issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m keeping one now on responses to the Lancet retraction of the Wakefield&#8217;s paper.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added your post to the list.</p>
<p>The post is at</p>
<p><a href="http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/02/on-the-lancets-retraction-of-wakefields-1998-paper-alleging-a-connection-between-the-mmr-vaccine-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/02/on-the-lancets-retraction-of-wakefields-1998-paper-alleging-a-connection-between-the-mmr-vaccine-and.html</a>.  There, your readers will find the views of those who disagree with the Lancet retraction and those who agree that the Lancet retraction was long-overdue.</p>
<p>Science isn&#8217;t decided by a popularity poll, but the pro-science faction is running at about a 9:1 ratio.</p>
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